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Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby Guy » Tue Dec 30, 2008 17:49

Hi,

Another new member from Edinburgh, Bonnie Scotland, here. :D

This looks like a nice wee community here. :D

I currently own two bikes a Suzuki RF900 & a nicely restored wee classic, a 1972 Suzuki T250J Hustler, the first real motorbike I owned as a 17 year old.

I have actually been riding bikes (on and off road) since I was 9 years old, I'm now 51 and have ridden bikes all my life including an 8 year stint as a motorcycle courier (in my forties !) on two Honda Revere 600's both of which I put circa 120,000 miles on and they were still going strong when I sold them ! :D :=Dc:

It is because I did so many miles on my Revere's that I'm sold on the reliability, comfort and useability of the model. They did everything well although perhaps nothing exceptionally well (except reliability) but the sum total of their parts still made them probbly the best all round bike I've ridden to date and I've ridden a few bikes in my time !

It is for this reason that I'm looking to return to the fold and as the old Revere 600's & NTV 650's are few and far between now, just like the old CX500's before them most have been couriered to death, I thought a Deauville would be a good more modern alternative ?

So, a Deauville 650 or maybe a 700 beckons as an alternative which I intend to use as my daily commute and occasional ride out machine whilst still keeping my other two bikes which have entirley different qualities.

I'd be very interested to hear from anyone who has ridden the old Revere's or NTV's as to how they compare with the newer Deauvilles ?

I've heard stories of the Deauville being described as a DULLville which is something that I'd never have levelled at it's predecesor.

The Revere's although granted, not the best handling bike in the world were ok & I was regularly "knee down" (out of town of course) on the Revere when conditions allowed and the "hero blobs" on the footpegs were quickly worn away to non existance (that's couriers for you ..hooligans ! :roll: ). The performance was adequate, brisk enough away from the lights to leave most cars behind without any problem and comfortable enough cruising in the 70/80mph bracket on the open road with a top end of about 110 to 115 ish. Fuel consumption varied but averaged out about 50 mpg on mixed town/distance work. The brakes were actually pretty good, nice and progressive although the front end was a bit soft and would dive more than I liked under really heavy braking but they were not prone to locking up the front as I've read may be a problem on the Deauville which is a bit worrying. :shock:

So, what can expect from the Deauville in comparison ?

Is the addition of a fairing and built in paniers really going to make it so much heavier that I'll be dissapointed with how it now performs. Although it will not be used for couriering & mainly for my daily commute which is largely in traffic, I'm hoping I'll still be able to enjoy the odd mildly "spirited" rideout on it without being too dissapinted ? I'm not looking for superbike performance, but there's still life in the old dog yet and I'm not ready for an "old mans bike" quite yet just a comfortable and reliable all rounder with decent performance simlar to the older models ..... am I going to be dissapointed with a Deauville ?

Anyway, I'd be really interested to hear from anyone who's ridden both.
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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby JGC » Tue Dec 30, 2008 17:54

Hi and welcome to the forum :wave:

Both 650 and 700 can be ridden in a spirited fashion, others will be along with further advice, but the only way you will be sure is to take a test ride on a 650 then a 700. I'm sure you will not be dissapointed
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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby niblue » Tue Dec 30, 2008 18:11

Guy wrote:So, what can expect from the Deauville in comparison ?


The Deauville will feel noticeably heavier when stationery however the weight disappears once on the move because the bikes are very well balanced. Performance wise my 650 tops out at an indicated 125mph and could cruise all day at 100mph or so, even two up. The bikes handle surprisingly well and I've never had a problem keeping up with sports bikes on group rides - quite the reverse in fact, especially in wet conditions or one particularily twisty roads. The Deauville can be leant over a fair way although eventually the centre stand can touch down (only happened once so far on my bike). You're not really likely to get the knee down on the Deauville though as the riding position doesn't lend itself to moving your weight aroung a lot when cornering. In normal riding I was getting 45-50mpg from my bike although I've had nearer 60mph when taking it easy 2-up touring.

I'd be surprised if the Deauville is noticeably slower than a Revere and, if anything, it's probably substantially quicker in the real world given that the fairing makes higher cruising speeds easier.
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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby mr.john.coates » Tue Dec 30, 2008 20:16

Hi, Guy

I can't offer you much advice on bikes, but can extend the hand of friendship and welcome you to the forum \:D/

No doubt others with more knowledge than me will be along soon to answer your questions.

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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby rapier » Tue Dec 30, 2008 20:21

Welcome Guy , just scroll thru all the topic's and you will find all you need to know about the DV . Enjoy the site.
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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby Guy » Tue Dec 30, 2008 20:39

Thanks for the friendly welcome guys, I think I'm going to like it here !

Well, I'm going to find out soon enough whether the Deauville will dissapoint me or not cos I just bought one ! :mrgreen:

I wasn't intending to leap in quite so soon but I was just browsing ebay (as you do) and saw THIS very recently listed & thought it looked like a bit of a bargain, so I bought it. :roll:

Ah well, I've just got to get it back up to Edinburgh in the New Year & I'll keep you posted how it goes ! :[dp:

Thanks for the help so far guys, I'm sure I'll be asking more questions.
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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby mr.john.coates » Tue Dec 30, 2008 20:45

Wow, she looks brilliant. Well done a real bargain. Now I'm Mr. Green..!
You'll not be disappointed. Please let us know how you get on :D
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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby Guy » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:14

Thanks John.

Given the time of year, salt on the roads etc & the fact that this bike comes with two additional pannier lids which would be difficult to carry, I'm thinking of hiring a S.W.B. Transit to go and pick it up. Looking at the dimensions I'm fairly sure it'll fit in a S.W.B. Transit but has anyone here actually done this and had one in the back of a Transit Van ?

Thanks !

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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby .Jock » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:22

Welcome to the forum Guy.
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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby HairyHeffalump » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:26

Congrats on your wise purchase and welcome to the forum.
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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby Rev Ken » Wed Dec 31, 2008 13:23

Guy wrote:Thanks John.

Given the time of year, salt on the roads etc & the fact that this bike comes with two additional pannier lids which would be difficult to carry, I'm thinking of hiring a S.W.B. Transit to go and pick it up. Looking at the dimensions I'm fairly sure it'll fit in a S.W.B. Transit but has anyone here actually done this and had one in the back of a Transit Van ?

Thanks !

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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby Guy » Wed Dec 31, 2008 14:06

Rev Ken wrote:I would have thought posting the extra lids and enjoying the ride back would be cheaper and more satisfying. Loading a DV into a van sounds like a job for SEVERAL strong people - or a crane! :roll:


Well, possibly that would be a better way to do it but it's too late now the van is hired ( £50.00 unlimited mileage ) & I managed to get them to give me a LWB for the price of a SWB so I'm happy there. :D

I've had my fill of freezing 300 mile rides when I was couriering also if I did ride it back, I'd have to get down to Birmingham somehow, so the Transit option is still looking good to me this time.... now if it was summer .......... !!! :)
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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby niblue » Wed Dec 31, 2008 14:26

Guy wrote:
Rev Ken wrote:I would have thought posting the extra lids and enjoying the ride back would be cheaper and more satisfying. Loading a DV into a van sounds like a job for SEVERAL strong people - or a crane! :roll:


Well, possibly that would be a better way to do it but it's too late now the van is hired ( £50.00 unlimited mileage ) & I managed to get them to give me a LWB for the price of a SWB so I'm happy there. :D

I've had my fill of freezing 300 mile rides when I was couriering also if I did ride it back, I'd have to get down to Birmingham somehow, so the Transit option is still looking good to me this time.... now if it was summer .......... !!! :)


Good luck. I hope you've got a strong ramp, a couple of friends and some strong tie-downs!
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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby Tezza The Grey » Wed Dec 31, 2008 20:29

Welcome Guy, :wave:
I think you've got a bargain there :=Dc:
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Re: Another New Member - Edinburgh

Postby Zimmer » Wed Dec 31, 2008 21:42

Welcome Guy.

Good to see another addition to the Scottish contingent.
That bike looks a snip at £3500.


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